Are Joba Rules helping or hurting?
Wow! Am I glad there were no "Joba Rules" when I was Joba Chamberlain's age. There were no 'Kitty Rules," only just keep sending the kid out there and see if he learns to pitch on the big-league level. Bases loaded, sixth inning. No idea of how many pitches he's thrown Jack McKeon would come out to the mound, (he was my playing manager and catcher in 1958) and say "Okay kid, see if you can pitch your way out of this mess." Sometimes I did and sometimes I didn't. But I did learn how to pitch out of jams, do some damage control and limit what could be big innings to a couple runs, and learned how to use different pitches and different speeds to get out of the inning and still keep my team in the game. That was the way I learned my trade when I was Joba's age.
Now, let me clear about this, Joba didn't have the backlog of innings as an amateur pitcher that I did. I remember pitching a seven-inning game at 11:00 a.m. in a tournament and when we won I pitched another game at four that afternoon. I was 15 years old. I never had serious arm issue in my career until September of 1967 when my elbow gave way after pitching 305 innings in 1966 and then in the heat of the best pennant race ever, September 1967, I was pitching my 65th inning of the month, seven starts averaging nine innings a start and trying to go 8-0 and pitch the Twins into the World Series.
Not to be. It may have been smart to give my arm a little breather at that time but that wasn't even a thought then. I don't say this to boast, only to point out the difference n the training of pitchers then and now. A nice blend of the two would be nice. It is more difficult to pitch today than at any time during my baseball lifetime for a number of reasons that you are all familiar with: strike zone, size of parks, and size of hitters, size and weight of bats, no brushing hitters back off the plate, body armor and on and on. It's a hitter's game today and a pitcher is at a huge disadvantage. That really accentuates how great Zack Greinke has been!
But Chamberlain or any other young pitcher is never going to learn how to pitch going to the mound every nine days and having a pitch counter looking over his shoulder like playing the old quiz show game "Beat the Clock." I feel sorry for him. I have great respect for Brian Cashman, Joe Girardi and the Yankee staff that has this plan in place. I'm sure they've thought it out thoroughly. I just wonder if they've asked for input from anyone who has pitched 250-300 innings a year several times, how they trained and what they might do differently.
This seems like a tremendous disservice to Chamberlain. If he does well in October the people behind this plan will say, "See, we knew it would work." But are they helping him long term? Are they teaching him how to pitch? Or are they just interested in arm strength, miles per hour and power instead of pitching.
Time will tell. I'm just glad I was never subjected to it. I may have been a part of the people following the game and not playing it long before my 25-year career ended.

Hey Jim! Always great to hear your point of view. I guess since we can't listen to you nightly any more this is the next best thing.
While I think you're right that the pendulum has swung too far in terms of protecting pitcher's arms instead of developing them as pitchers. However, I'll reserve my judgement on the 2009 Joba rules and see how effective he is in the playoffs.
Take care Jim and hopefully you'll stop in the broadcast booth every now and then.
Chris
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Hey Jim! I heard that you dropped in for a surprise broadcast at one point a while back. I respectfully request that you announce ahead of time when if ever do again so that we can TIVO those games, I missed you last time and I was sad.
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Jim - I totally agree with your comments about Joba. The "rules" have changed so many times his head must be spinning. I don't pretend to have any answers - I defer to the decision makers in charge - but I keep asking myself (and my husband) how does this all help Joba? He's gone from looking intimidating to looking intimidated. Maybe he should be in the minors for a while learning how to be a starting pitcher; at least there he'd have some consistency. Glad to have your baseball voice back in the media. As a devoted Yankee fan, I really miss you on Yes!!
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Mr Kaat. Always a pleasure to hear what you have to say.
I am a huge Joba fan. I've got the jersey to show it too. I'd be lying if I didn't say that I was disappointed with the year he is having. I still believe in him and think that he's going to be a force in this league. But these rules are silly. If the brass feel that he needs rules, then they should just send him down and do this right. Not to mention he's getting advice from AJ. Not that its a bad thing, but the man has no problem walking people.
Question: Is Joba showcasing all his pitches too early rather than just a couple once through the order then second time through, showcase his other pitches?
Hope you're enjoying your time off with your family.
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Great insight from some one that has been been there...my thought is this.....after all of this protection the Yankees have done, what if Joba get hurts? I think it will make the yankees look very foolish
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Hey Jim. Just being an average fan it's good to hear from
one who has pitched in the past. It just seems that Joba
was on the right track after the A-S break then they put in
this Joba rule. Every 7,8 or 9 days between starts. It just
looked to confuse him. Now he has one good game against
boston and he is ready for the playoffs. B-S. Gaudin has
shown better and should be the 4th starter. Come back to
the booth more often, we all miss your insight's and tell it
like it should be. John
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